00:00 - 04:51
She studied Interior Design at Duncan of Jordanstone from 1974 to 1978. Chose Duncan of Jordanstone because it was the only place available at the time. She was in Canada on holiday when she got her results. She hadn't applied to art college yet but mother applied for her. She had an interview and was then offered a place. This all happened quite late in the application process and she was lucky to get in. She was born in Perth but moved around a lot with her family as a child. She went to school in Manchester. She says she is more Scottish than she sounds because she has an English accent. She wanted to come back to Scotland. Her family had moved to Inverness before she started her course. Interior Design course at Duncan of Jordanstone was a dedicated four year course. She was inspired to go to art college by a trip to an art school in Canada. Course at Duncan of Jordanstone was a really good course and quite architectural. Members of staff included: Val Morocco, an architect, who was head head of department. Mike Green who was an interior designer. Dennis White, who was a furniture designer. Val Morocco was Alberto Morocco's brother.
04:52 - 10:25
The course ran nine to five every day. There was a lecture everyday and they had time in the studio. Staff were always about. She was inspired by Neil Dallas Brown , who taught basic design, because he was brilliant on his theory of design and practice of design. Lectures were given by staff from various departments. She had 'Life Drawing' with Grant Clifford and was made to paint with her left hand. Students had a set project at the beginning of each year e.g. design a shop/bathroom/exhibition. Six week long projects. She had lectures in 'History of Architecture', 'History of Art', Basic Design', 'Drawing' and 'Painting', 'Textiles', 'Weaving', 'Sculpture' and 'Photography'. The course was very studio based. There was a good American lecturer for 'History of 'Architecture. She also participated in Furniture Making. It was a full on course. She never left the college before five o'clock. She once spent four days and nights non-stop working. There were a lot of drugs available in Dundee at the time. There was not a lot of relationship between the college and the university. Art students needed a special pass to get into the union.
10:26 - 15:40
The staff at the time was, Mike Green who she found was the most influential and was very creative. Val Morocco was more rigid. Green was very supportive and later taught at Edinburgh College of Art and became head of department but was under Val Morocco while at Dundee. Dennis White was really nice and very caring. He was gentlemanly but not an inspirational figure. There were no part-time staff. She says it is important for interior designers to be at an art college as there is so much inspiration. There was also James Morrison but he did not teach them directly. Grant Clifford was also a great influence. Jack Nox was also around at the time. She remembers some of these people being around and her friends talking about them.
15:41 - 16:58
She never came across the art college principal and did not know that one existed. There was a lot of close contact with 'Architecture and Town Planning' students. John Browning, an architect, set up drama society.
16:59 - 22:09
There were only six people in her year group. John Trasise, from Fife. Ellen Kristofferson, from Norway, was slightly older and was a good influence. She has a successful business in Norway and has a great relationship with Dundee. There were many Norwegians in Dundee at the time. A girl from her course only stayed for one year after meeting and marrying a Norwegian. Bill Fawns, from Dundee, was also in her class. She can't remember the others. She also knew people in other years quite well. Helen MacNamara, Hamish, Fiona Classan and Susan Deo. Dundee had very good reputation because it was architectural biased, an aspect which helped her at interviews. She also knew fine art students as well. She would go to pubs and then someone's flat after college. Art college had its own student union. Pool was popular. Canteen served only unhealthy food.
22:10 - 25:08
There were no societies or activities for students at the time which Jane was disappointed by. She would have wanted to get more involved with activities at the university but she did not think those things were meant for her. She bought clothes at charity shops. She made a coat out of a blanket from a charity shop with a hole cut in it. She stayed in various places while at Dundee such as Balgay Hill student residencies, Hilltown, Commercial Street and Step Row.
25:09 - 27:35
The Matthew Building opened in 1974. She was the first group of students in it. She found it was a very clean building, and Interior Design was on the fifth floor. The library was very good. The other building was used for some classes but lectures were in the Matthew Building.
27:36 - 31:30
Degree Show and Graduation: It was known as the Diploma Show during her time. Her dad died three days before her final submission so unfortunately missed her degree show. Degree show was held in a big hall. It was not as big back then as it is now. She did not go to previous years' degree shows but wish she had. There was not as much inclusion back then. She went to her degree ceremony in September. She has sad memories of that day because her dad was not there. She had spoken to dad on the phone the day before he died.
31:31 - 35:28
At the time, the record shop, Grouchos, was a popular place. It was a hub for student activity where they would swap records. There was also a pub culture. She went to St Andrews and sailed on the Tay once but had to be rescued. She and her friends would take the college van on outings, such as a trip to Perth or up the hills. Went to a Revels at Christmas time which had various themes. Architects would hold parties. There was not so much of a joining up of students through activities.
35:29 - 38:02
City Museum/ McManus Galleries and further activities: She never went to McManus Galleries but had a friend who lived nearby. She also never went to the football. She walked across the bridge to Tayport and went to the Caird Hall to see wrestling. She had lots of curries and went to see lots of films. She went to a cinema near Commercial Street. She also went to bookshops a lot. She would have liked to have gotten more involved. Medical students used to do a lot together. There was no bridge between the university and the art college even though she would have liked to have gotten more involved.
38:03 - 40:52
Links with older students: There was an awareness of what older students had gotten up to. They were quite close. They all knew where everyone had gone. She stayed with someone in London form the year above. Many of the students came back to Scotland. Her first job was at Edinburgh Council. She then went to London for twelve years doing various jobs but always wanted to go back to Scotland. There were few interior design jobs in Dundee at the time. Lots of architects stayed in Dundee. They were a very supportive year group. They would help each other and there was no competitiveness.
40:53 - 43:45
She found that other courses were not as technical at other institutions at the time. Students need to learn how to be creative. Mike Green was an influence. Dundee students would be able to show off technical drawing skills. She stresses the importance of knowing how to develop creativity. You need to learn about life, art and other influences.
43:46 - 48:02
After her time in London she got a job teaching at Edinburgh College of Art thanks to Mike Green. She had had her own business in London and two little children. She didn't want her children to grow up in London, she stayed in Bridge of Allan. Her job teaching at Edinburgh College of Art was the best job she ever had, it was exhilarating. She found teaching students inspirational. She learned so much from the students and did the job for seven years. She then became an interior designer at Stirling University. She then became art curator while continuing to do interior design. Being art curator is not as easy a job as she had thought. She currently does three days of interior design and two days as art curator but thinks the time should be divided up the other way round. Art curation takes more time. In her job she creates spaces for the paintings to go into. She really loves the student environment. Dundee was so full of ideas when she was there. Her job at a university reminds her of that. She hankers after the art college life.